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The opposite of Turcken
May 22nd, 2008

The opposite of Turcken

They are changing the sandwiches at work. Apparently, the old sandwiches were too labour intensive.

I’m pretty sure the Earl of Sandwich would disagree. It is rumoured that he liked them because they were convenient when playing cards and they didn’t get the cards all greasy… I like them for precisely the same reason when I’m at work.

And so it is important for them to be made right, they’re a specialist lunch with a function beyond filling a stomach. Our old sandwiches (for all their faults including the obscene use of onion in a tuna and mayonnaise sandwich) were hand-made and subsidised. You could get a good, filling, cheap meal that adhered to the non-greasy nature of the ideal sandwich.

The new ones will be different. they may or may not be hand-made, but even if they are they will be to a lower quality. I mean, the people who make these sandwiches are not going to be stood in front of you when you pay… that’s motivation for getting it right… no, they’ll stack them crooked and the filling will spill everywhere, just like at every other place I’ve worked.

That stops it from being a sandwich and turns it into be a salad garnished with bread.

That’s why I’ll be taking in a packed lunch next week when I return, just in case – I wouldn’t want my cards to get all greasy. The trouble is, I’m used to picking from a selection presented to me, institutionalised, so to speak, and I have no idea where to start.

I’m torn between trying to perfect something simple – the ideal ham and cheese perhaps – or something rather grand and custom – I like chillies and peanut butter, there must be a safe way to combine them.

So, name your top sandwich. Points will be awarded for creativity and sheer determination. I may try some of them, but be warned, bad tasting sandwiches give me outbreaks of rage.

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53 Comments

  1. Stephan Sokolow Identicon Icon Stephan Sokolow on 22.05.2008 at 23:51 (Reply)

    I like toasted lettuce an tomato, possibly with a slice of mozzarella. (fake/tofu cheese. I’m vegan) Of course, I’m a man of simple tastes.

    1. Adam Identicon Icon Adam on 23.05.2008 at 13:16 (Reply)

      It’s a classic. I tend to get a bit picky about the simple ones… It’s all about ratios, right?

      I think I’m going to go with the mozzarella

  2. 6027 Identicon Icon 6027 on 23.05.2008 at 00:56 (Reply)

    Everything. I call them “manwhiches”. Stacks of Ham, Turkey, Honey Glazed Ham, Corned Beef. Lettuce Tomato’s, Onion’s, Pickles (the bread and butter kind). Mustard, Mayo/Miriclewhip, Pepper; all on a nice toasted Jewish rye. Chips if you have room on the plate.

    1. Adam Identicon Icon Adam on 23.05.2008 at 13:22 (Reply)

      That sounds tasty, but it could get a bit messy, plus the prep time would mean getting up a whole hour earlier… and the way things are going that would technically mean waking up before I went to bed.

      As far as I know, we don’t really have Miracle whip… but I’m aware of it because of so many refernces in pop culture…

      Actually a quick check I found this:

      “Miracle Whip was sold briefly in the United Kingdom from around January 2006 to April 2007, this supply was imported by national supermarket chain Tesco from Kraft Foods Germany; it was not marketed by Kraft Foods UK at the time.”

      I guess we’re full-fat all the way in the UK.

      1. Davey Identicon Icon Davey on 24.05.2008 at 15:10 (Reply)

        That’s fine cause the stuff is nasty if you’re a mayo kinda guy…

        1. Melanthios Identicon Icon Melanthios on 24.05.2008 at 15:16 (Reply)

          I’m a mustard kind of guy. Mayo and miracle whip are both icky to me. I suppose I’d rather butter? Eggs and me aren’t friends, for some reason.

  3. Tia Identicon Icon Tia on 23.05.2008 at 02:53 (Reply)

    peanut butter and pickles is good, as well as turkey with cranberry sauce.
    i like the idea of sandwich-induced rage.
    nice buttons on the side there.

    1. Adam Identicon Icon Adam on 23.05.2008 at 13:23 (Reply)

      Thanks…

      That sounds more like a lesson in alchemy than a sandwich. Peanutbutter and pickles? I’m intrigued, I think I’ll give it a go.

  4. tanda333 Identicon Icon tanda333 on 23.05.2008 at 02:58 (Reply)

    i like peanut butter and apricot jam (or a simmilarly fruity non-berry jam) with bannanas.

    also to be respected is fried egg, cheese (cheddar, really old cheddar), and bacon on toasted light rye

    when in doubt: take randomly chosen bread-like substance, add every kind of protein you can handle, use lotta vegetables (lettuce, etc.) and add a good mustard, find a good dijon or honey mustard, or even a spicy mustard.

    1. Adam Identicon Icon Adam on 23.05.2008 at 13:24 (Reply)

      “also to be respected is fried egg, cheese (cheddar, really old cheddar), and bacon on toasted light rye”

      Indeed, respect is given… We have a local cheddar here that’s so mature that it doesn’t even laugh when someone walks into a lamp post.

  5. The Great Joe Bivins Identicon Icon The Great Joe Bivins on 23.05.2008 at 03:01 (Reply)

    I’m very odd about food. I like a peanut butter and apple slices sandwich. The combination of sticky gooey peanut butter and crisp sweet cold apple slices makes for a tasty treat. I also like to mash up bananas into a paste and make a sandwich with it and peanut butter. I always use creamy peanut butter, of course, and I prefer Jif because others are too salty and grainy.

    1. Adam Identicon Icon Adam on 23.05.2008 at 13:26 (Reply)

      I was recently introduced to Marmite*, cheese and apple as a combination. Top stuff, I’d never really considered apple as a sandwich filler, but I can see the point now – it keeps a bit of crispy moisture in there without letting the bread get soaked.

      *Similar to veggiemite etc.

      1. Stacey Identicon Icon Stacey on 24.05.2008 at 04:04 (Reply)

        marmite with thick cut plain potato chips is definately a must.
        and even better, throw some brie in there. mmm

      2. Davey Identicon Icon Davey on 24.05.2008 at 15:12 (Reply)

        I’ll have a vegelate sandwich please.

  6. Melanthios Identicon Icon Melanthios on 23.05.2008 at 05:17 (Reply)

    Sliced turkey + tzatziki + tomatoes = Amazing sammich my friend Annalisa invented the other day.

    I don’t have sandwiches often, anymore. I like salads. And I don’t mean healthy salads. I mean salads full of protein and calories. Turkey, bacon, cheese, avocado…

    O yes. Put avocado on everything. It’s amazing.

  7. Seraphine Identicon Icon Seraphine on 23.05.2008 at 05:27 (Reply)

    Whole grain bread, cream cheese, avocado,
    tomatoes and either sprouts or lettuce.
    It’s awesome goodness with a dill pickle.

    1. Melanthios Identicon Icon Melanthios on 23.05.2008 at 05:32 (Reply)

      What about meat?

      1. Seraphine Identicon Icon Seraphine on 23.05.2008 at 16:10 (Reply)

        why spoil a perfect sandwich with meat?
        do you have *any* idea what weird
        bacteria meat leaves in your colon?

        1. Roo Identicon Icon Roo on 23.05.2008 at 16:17 (Reply)

          Exactly! The best sandwiches are meat free.

          I found a place here in Philadelphia that makes a killer vegetarian Philly Cheese Steak, with broccoli rabe. Oh, it’s so good!

          1. Melanthios Identicon Icon Melanthios on 23.05.2008 at 17:38 (Reply) (Comments won't nest below this level)

            H’m, well you can go off and be rabbits, then. Humans are omnivores, and there’s no vegan dogma that will convince me otherwise.

        2. Melanthios Identicon Icon Melanthios on 23.05.2008 at 17:40 (Reply)

          You know, I could say the same thing about sprouts. Sprouts are not allowed to be used in any Disneyland restaurant, because they are impossible to clean. I do not fancy eating bug poops, myself.

          So, we’re even.

          1. Seraphine Identicon Icon Seraphine on 24.05.2008 at 07:21 (Reply) (Comments won't nest below this level)

            you do know that elvis had 60 pounds
            of impacted fecal matter in his colon when
            he died, as a direct result of eating meat?

            http://www.snopes.com/horrors/gruesome/fecalcolon.asp

          2. Melanthios Identicon Icon Melanthios on 24.05.2008 at 10:05 (Reply)

            Did you know that mushrooms grow in fecal matter? Actually, all plants do.

            Some of my best friends are plants; so you see, honey-lamb, I’m not a carnivore because I’m woefully ignorant, the way you think I am. I’m a carnivore because I cannot stand the thought of cruelly ripping my friends out of the ground and eating them, nor can I stand the thought of breeding them sterile for my own enjoyment, or killing them as babies just to follow a trend, or genetically modifying them so that certain parts are unnaturally engorged.

            To my friends, vegans are the cruel ones.

        3. Davey Identicon Icon Davey on 24.05.2008 at 15:18 (Reply)

          Like sprouts don’t? : D

  8. Seraphine Identicon Icon Seraphine on 23.05.2008 at 05:31 (Reply)

    I love peanut butter,
    especially on hot toast.
    I’ll try an apple slice
    and see if I like that too.

    1. justine Identicon Icon justine on 23.05.2008 at 13:48 (Reply)

      apples + peanut butter = a favourite
      they have to be red apples though
      none of this green apple crap

      1. Seraphine Identicon Icon Seraphine on 23.05.2008 at 16:12 (Reply)

        but not those mushy red apples. i like ‘em crisp.
        chomp chomp

      2. The Great Joe Bivins Identicon Icon The Great Joe Bivins on 24.05.2008 at 00:54 (Reply)

        Actually sometimes green apples make for an interesting change because they’re so tart. But crispness is the most important attribute for the sandwich apple slice.

  9. Seraphine Identicon Icon Seraphine on 23.05.2008 at 05:32 (Reply)

    sandwich induced rage?
    lol tia. you’re dripping…

    1. Tia Identicon Icon Tia on 23.05.2008 at 06:36 (Reply)

      that i am
      i forgot to eat today

  10. Mike Identicon Icon Mike on 23.05.2008 at 05:37 (Reply)

    BLT with a fried egg on it. It’s healthy, it’s got vegetables.

    Also, the title reminds me of turducken. It’s a chicken stuffed in a duck stuffed in a turkey. I will try one eventually.

    1. beemoh Identicon Icon beemoh on 23.05.2008 at 09:53 (Reply)

      I, for one, eat nothing that has “turd” in the name.

      /b

      1. Adam Identicon Icon Adam on 23.05.2008 at 13:30 (Reply)

        Ha…

        Still, triple-bird… why not go one further and have a tiny quail in there, sort of like Russian dolls.

        1. Melanthios Identicon Icon Melanthios on 23.05.2008 at 13:32 (Reply)

          Actually, the ‘turducken’ is a dish that was invented in the middle ages, and they didn’t limit themselves to birds. Also they ate sparrows. We could put a sparrow inside a quail inside a cornish game hen inside a duck inside a pheasant….

      2. Seraphine Identicon Icon Seraphine on 23.05.2008 at 16:07 (Reply)

        laffs at the turd joke.

  11. Nightshade and Dark Identicon Icon Nightshade and Dark on 23.05.2008 at 05:49 (Reply)

    Spicy Reuben:
    Replace corned beef with capacola.
    Replace kraut with kimchi.
    Replace swiss cheese with swiss cheese.
    Replace rye bread with rye bread.

    I’m not one for condiments, so use the traditional thousand island at your own discretion.

  12. J Gray Identicon Icon J Gray on 23.05.2008 at 11:34 (Reply)

    I’m simple. Peanut butter and banana with, maybe, some cinnamon/sugar.

  13. brigital Identicon Icon brigital on 23.05.2008 at 12:57 (Reply)

    tuna mayonnaise and sliced pickled jalpenos…when you’re poor you have to think of inventive ways of making yr bog standard sandwich actually taste nice this is the sandwich for you…cost per sandwich is about 50p but tastes better than the fancy ones in marks & spencers that cost £300! cucumber optional and generally pointless…

    pimp your sandwich by adding red pepper and olives….but only on days when you’re feeling flush :)

    granary bread is king amongst breads…what’s all this rye bread nonsense about??

    sandwich induced rage best exemplified by Ross in populist american sitcom ‘Friends’…all together now….’my sandwich?…. MY SANDWICH????’

    p.s. i may know nothing about comics but i am a food geek.

    1. Melanthios Identicon Icon Melanthios on 23.05.2008 at 13:30 (Reply)

      Oooo, I love tuna! Ideally I have mine with just enough mayo to make it stick together, sweet pickle relish, and diced celery to give it some crispiness. Preferably on sourdough, lettuce and tomato optional.

      I can’t have capsaisin, though. My body says ‘no. No. NO OMG NO OMG NO.’ to that sort of spicy.

      Have you ever tried tzatziki? It’s amazing.

      1. Roo Identicon Icon Roo on 23.05.2008 at 15:08 (Reply)

        Yeah, I’m a big fan of tzatziki… I think living in Greece for a while will do that to you. Make it with twice the garlic your recipe calls for though… I’ve never seen a recipe that includes the kind of garlic quotient we had back on Crete.

        1. Melanthios Identicon Icon Melanthios on 23.05.2008 at 17:39 (Reply)

          Too much garlic throws off the taste-balance.

  14. Melanthios Identicon Icon Melanthios on 23.05.2008 at 13:34 (Reply)

    Oooo! Also! You know what’s just fabulously decadent and moan-inducing? Fresh (FRESH) sourdough with nutella and raspberry preserves. Oh. My. Gods. I have to eat that thing by myself otherwise people think I’m having sex…. (blush)

    1. Seraphine Identicon Icon Seraphine on 23.05.2008 at 16:14 (Reply)

      /hands Melanthios a tissue.

  15. Ron Hubbard Identicon Icon Ron Hubbard on 23.05.2008 at 14:39 (Reply)

    mmmmm…..brown (HP) sauce sandwiches *dribbles on keyboard*

  16. Roo Identicon Icon Roo on 23.05.2008 at 15:16 (Reply)

    Favourite sandwich? Hmmm, I really like fried egg, cheddar cheese (that old mature one, that doesn’t even giggle at lamppost-walking-into’s (which reminds me of a story: at my college orientation, the first night they had us out in the dorms, and a bunch of us decided to go down to the quad to play some frisbee. Now the quad was a big open field, with some paths cutting across it, and these paths had lampposts all along their lengths. SO this one poor kid was tearing after a wide pass, running full tilt for the frisbee, behind it, arm outstretched, running as fast as the frisbee was flying. Just as he gets his fingers on the rim of the frisbee… CRACK, he runs head first into a lamppost. We call him “Lamppost” to this day)) and wilted chard on sourdough, with a really good stoneground mustard.

    I’m also partial to avocado, orange slices, and sour cream on toast. Yum yum yum.

    1. Seraphine Identicon Icon Seraphine on 23.05.2008 at 16:17 (Reply)

      Roo, that lamppost story is the
      perfect filling for your sandwich.

  17. Ti Identicon Icon Ti on 23.05.2008 at 15:29 (Reply)

    Following the apples + peanut butter theme, this is one of my favourites too. There are a couple of additions that are a must though!

    Peanut Butter, Cheddar Cheese, Branston Sandwich Pickle, Slices of Granny Smith Apples, enclosed in two slabs of buttered Granary Bread.

    .. damn I’m hungry now.

    ps. What on earth is sourdough??!

    1. Melanthios Identicon Icon Melanthios on 24.05.2008 at 10:14 (Reply)

      Sourdough bread is delicious. It’s different from other breads in that you use yeast from a ‘mother sponge’ instead of using new yeast every time. As well, lactobacilli is present, which gives sourdough its distinctive tang.

      Traditionally, each bakery has a different ‘mother sponge’ and therefore, each bakery’s sourdough has a different taste. If fed flour and water, an M. S. can live indefinitely. As well, sourdough can also refer to bread made using ‘wild’ yeast, as opposed to store-bought or sterile yeast. However, the advent of the stricter food service laws means that most modern sourdough is no longer this way, though the method of keeping a mother sponge is still viable and very much necessary, with M. S. being jealousy guarded by famous bakeries.

      1. Mike Identicon Icon Mike on 24.05.2008 at 16:04 (Reply)

        Also, if you buy sourdough from the store, look closely at the label. If it’s got the same ingredients as your typical white bread, it’s probably fake.

  18. Adam_Y Identicon Icon Adam_Y on 24.05.2008 at 12:41 (Reply)

    Who would have thought the science of sandwiches was so varied… and we haven’t even touched on the close relatives, the bagel, the pitta and the wrap.

    Sterling work there.

    1. Melanthios Identicon Icon Melanthios on 24.05.2008 at 12:46 (Reply)

      Ooo! A raisin bagel (not cinnamon, just raisin), toasted and buttered, with two slices of Dubliner cheese, is the perfect thing to accompany a cup of black tea and an episode of QI.

  19. Davey Identicon Icon Davey on 24.05.2008 at 15:24 (Reply)

    Lochs and capers.

  20. Dan Identicon Icon Dan on 06.06.2008 at 22:10 (Reply)

    As an avid meat eater, and lover of vegetables and fruits. I like to pile my sandwiches Scooby doo style.

    There is no wrong when it comes to making ultimate sandwiches. I will pile fried egg and lettuce tomatto pickles peppers, what ever is in the fridge on to my sandwich. layers of sougherdough bread, wheat, white, potato… what ever i can find.

    The only thing i find one needs to be careful of… make sure that when you’re finished the sandwich isn’t taller than you….

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