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By: Ben

Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:05:20 +0000

Maybe
*blushes*

By: Ben

Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:04:41 +0000

I can hurt you.
I hear that there is new tech that allows you to stab ppl over the internet.

By: Ben

Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:03:53 +0000

That is a classic take on it.

By: Davey

Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:15:14 +0000

I agree, while I’m not sold on the idea of a human cause we still ought to act like we’re the problem… and act not only to reduce our extra carbon emission, but also get ready for the warm, cause we’re only gonna need more energy for cooling as time goes on.

By: Davey

Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:12:04 +0000

“Guys guys, you know how I was trying to finish plating my roof in solid gold?”

Suspicious looks, “Yeah…”

“Well, I tore down my house and found a bunch of gold shingles! Now I can finish my roof!”

“But you’ve destroyed your house… you haven’t got a roof anymore.”

By: Seraphine

Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:30:51 +0000

I don’t have any plans for swimming
at the north pole.
Bonus: Santa finally gets the
open water port he’s always wanted.
This Christmas, he can ship his gifts
rather than use that awful sleigh again.

By: Roo

Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:15:25 +0000

So this is my favourite part: “If it happens, it raises the prospect of the Arctic nations being able to exploit the valuable oil. . .deposits below these, a bed which have until now been impossible to extract because of the thick sea ice above.”

Can you say, “WTF?”

By: Roo

Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:07:16 +0000

Now I want to know what the worse one was!

By: Roo

Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:06:06 +0000

Don’t forget Greeeeeeenland.

By: Adam

Tue, 01 Jul 2008 08:25:31 +0000

“I’ve been busy doing my part for global warming today”

*Adam suspects that Ben is blowtorching glaciers for fun again*

By: Adam

Tue, 01 Jul 2008 08:24:20 +0000

Nods in agreement… I had a worse one in reserve.

By: Ben

Tue, 01 Jul 2008 08:16:28 +0000

That is a horrible title btw.
Terrible, terrible, terrible.

By: Adam

Tue, 01 Jul 2008 08:15:41 +0000

I did a bit of research and that caculation seems reasonable enough, but as David mentions below that would need to include the Antartic ice too… and possibly some of the altitude ice and snow too.

Can you imagine the smug look on Kevin Costners face if it goes all Waterworld?

By: Ben

Tue, 01 Jul 2008 08:14:44 +0000

There are bets running on this kind of thing.
I’m not sure how you get involved or even find out the odds, but it does exist.

I’ve been busy doing my part for global warming today:D

By: Adam

Tue, 01 Jul 2008 08:09:41 +0000

“a couple of smokestacks”

Hailing from the North – the industrial North – the remnants of them still loom large over our town. We burned a lot of fossil fuels here, so much so that most of the houses are still covered in a half-inch of soot.

But that’s sort of irrelevant, I mean the reason why this is happening – that argument will go on forever, but the fact remains that change is afoot no matter what the cause… that and the fact that this particular event has yet to happen in human history (as far as we can tell) so we’ll be the first to deal with it.

I think the thing that really rattles me is that my whole constuct view of this world pivots around just a few facts. I think ‘cold’ and I think of ice and snow and the North Pole… that just isn’t the case if it melts… it’s like flooding the Sahara.

By: David

Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:26:29 +0000

Well, you only have to worry for the most part about the sea level rising due to Antarctic ice melting. Most of the ice in the northern arctic is floating on the ocean, meaning it displaces an equal amount of water so when it melts, the sea level won’t change. That and wikipedia says it’s mostly 2-3 meters thick.

Antarctica on the other hand is covered with an average of 1.5 km of ice which would raise the sea level if it melted.

By: Matt`

Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:23:01 +0000

Did my own Googling, one place claims 80m+ in sea level rise if all the ice were gone, another says 60m. 80m seems to be the most commonly quoted figure… though it ranges from 50m to 100m.

Sounds like that scenario probably floods me out, but the “likely” worst case scenario is more like 7m, in which case I laugh in the face of flooding. Everything getting hot might be a bit of a bitch, but at least I don’t have to worry about drowning.

By: Matt`

Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:12:26 +0000

Anyone know what the absolute worst case, “there is no ice left on this planet” scenario for sea level rise is? According to the internets, where I live is ~60m above sea level… sounds like I (and all my awesome stuff) ought to be safe.

By: Matt`

Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:05:29 +0000

I know what you mean. “The climate” and “the atmosphere” are sodding huge things… massive complex systems interwoven with the rest of the planet, that seem to have been doing whatever the hell they want for the past x billion years. Seems ludicrous to think we could just put up a couple of smokestacks and throw it all out of kilter, you would think that there must have been bigger events in the history of the world than “humans discover heavy industry and fossil fuels” and the climate got over those.

I’m not completely switched off to the idea that we’re over-inflating our estimation of our own influence, and that actually this is a natural cycle of climate change (or sunspots or cloud cover or tectonic activity or any one of those other alternatives) Hell, the tiny shift in distance/angle when the Earth tilts is enough to change summer into winter, the Sun seems an eminently plausible reason for things to get hotter around here.

On the other hand, the top science-guys seem to coming back with the nearest thing to a consensus that you see in science this complex… it would be inconsistent to trust them the rest of the time then not listen to what they’re saying on this one.

By: The Great Joe Bivins

Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:24:57 +0000

I worry the ice caps will melt and the seas will rise rather more quickly than we’d expected and Florida will be entirely flooded before I have a chance to leave or move my stuff. I like my stuff..

By: Davey

Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:51:54 +0000

It’s 68 degrees today here in the mountains.

By: easca

Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:02:47 +0000

We have a national Snow and Ice Data Center? Where do we get all these random divisions/administrations/centers from?

By: Maddie

Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:30:21 +0000

Whoo, I’m back from sunny ol’ Germany! And yes, it is sunny over there.

Hmm. I hate the idea global warming is actually happening, but I do struggle to believe that it’s entirely our fault. Scientists say there’s a 10% chance it’s not, and anyway, the world had had ice ages and volcanoes and mass extinctions without our involvment. Mind you, I don’t suppose it matters what we have or haven’t done, the results will be the same.